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doug's avatar

hey Sam your entitled to you opinion, but thats BS . im not comparing them as the same virus etc, im saying they are different and should be statically separate,along with pneumonia , but they are being put together. I have read this , seen it on the news and heard this in numerous places including a family member who it a mortician. carry on , Im out.

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doug's avatar

dont believe everything you read. as I am now not doing here. for every psychological study one can find as in the one cited in this article, one can find another of opposite findings. we seek and find material that supports the world view we have invested in. the idea of a person being a democrat or a republican put in a two box identity is ridiculous. I am at times a liberal and at times a conservative. I weigh and evaluate each thing on its merit and common sense. i can see right out of the gate here in this article a "leading the witness". the idea of the republicans being a death cult is reckless. in every bad flu season as in the swine flu , well up to 150 thousand people died in this country and not a soul yawned. now we have this covid thing and it packages all deaths, influenza , pnemonia and covid all together , so we dont really have a honest covid statistic do we? yet has anyone looked at the damage due to this lockdown in lost jobs, careers lives damage to children, suicides depression , rape mental illness and medical conditions unattended to due to the covid boogy man. i have a friend who died on the toilet bowl from prostate cancer, told he had to wait till 2021 for a procedure. I can see I will be removing myself from this list

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Samuel Gold's avatar

Only 12,000 people died in the U.S. from the Swine Flu pandemic of 2009-2010, not 150,000, you're quoting the low-end of the worldwide numbers, which is 151,700.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/qa/how-many-deaths-were-caused-by-swine-flu-in-the-us

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-swine-flu-spread-rapidly-but-not-deadly-covid-19/5577001002/

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thanks Sam i intended to say 2017 numbers in combination with pneumonia / but yes, not the number as high as i thought . but Im bothered that there are $$ incentives to tag everything covid. why cant we all get an honest number ? //// CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2017–2018 season was high with an estimated 45 million people getting sick with influenza, 21 million people going to a health care provider, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths from influenza (Table 1). The number of cases of influenza-associated illness that occurred during 2017-2018 was the highest since the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, when an estimated 60 million people were sick with influenza (7).

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Samuel Gold's avatar

I suggest that you stop comparing coronavirus to influenza. It's not the same, not close. It's much deadlier and more easily spread through aerosolization. And there are no big money incentives for health care professionals to tweak COVID-19 cases. That's not only cynical and disparaging to our front-line medical professionals, its totally unsourced QAnon B.S. if I ever read it.

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